Shielded Cat5e is a social media outlaw
A high-res image of TE Connectivity's Raychem Cat 5e cable draws a ban from social media.
The following post, submitted to the board at Reddit's 'Cableporn' sub-community (r/cableporn), was in fact deleted by the social media site's moderators -- presumably for being too commercially-oriented.
The photo is of TE Connectivity's Raychem Cat 5e cable, which is qualified to MIL-DTL-24643/59 and /61 and tested in accordance with ANSI/TIA-568-C.2. Featuring an aluminized wrap for sheilding (round braid or flat), the lightweight, ruggedized Ethernet cable handles speeds up to 1 Gb/s, critical for high data rate communications in applications including shipboard, satellite, missiles, weapons, and avionics systems.
The thread of comments and discussion that the banned post generated before removal is (arguably) hilarious, informative, and worthy of commemoration:
submitted 4 months ago by CablingInstall
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I would hate to strip and terminate this
I love to strip.
I’d ask for a demonstration, but I don’t know you...
I’d demonstrate but I don’t know you sir
Ah, I see you do not know me sir.
But do you know who's on first?
If I pay enough I don’t need to know you😂
Strip me like an armoured 😍
What do you even get paid to do something like this? I was looking at the picture thinking “F___ terminating those all day", then you say it's up a tower and in ridiculous temps? No no no no.
Damn, that stuff is fairly expensive
Pretty standard for that cable. I like the turck variant though. Rf51624 @ $3.30 a meter
Custom cables are a big business. I worked for a company that did automation systems. We had a cable that was $17 a foot just for the raw cable before any work was done. No idea what they charged for the finished product.
Oh yeah, big time. However depending on the cable/material some of this stuff is so commoditized that it becomes difficult to be an outlier
Wow, is that stuff flooded too?
It's not as bad as you'd think... Have you never worked with coax? It's similar in how you must handle the sheilding.
Yeah and coax has a foam layer that absorbs the razor easily, knocking pairs leads to service calls..
So let's see ... pastel ... why? And no striped whites? How do you distinguish them?
This belongs in /r/cablefail
Since you pointed that out I noticed that. How am I supposed to get pairings right if after I spread them they all look the same?
I've terminated cable like this and, while it's not super hard to keep the conductors straight, the panic is always there for me.
Yea I’d rather just not have panic ya know?
The braided shield is also a bit of a pain.
Just imagine having a job come down and be like “hey we need 50 five feet cables”
With this cable it’d be hell
"Amazon.com prime now same day delivery is right here for you, sir."
Oh how I wish
You should never be untwisting things so much that you can't keep track of the pairs.
I don't know why you are being down voted. You gota maintain those twists for aslong as possible.
Yea I get that but still if you are terminating and a cable gets switched you’ll have no idea. Even on push throughs I’ve had cables jump spots.
Yeah, my initial reaction was "wow, the orange stripes are weirdly hidden from this angle." Then I looked closer. No stripes at all...
I guess they figure you can identify it if you don't look away.
If you untwist the pairs all the way to the jacket you're doing it wrong.
For an RJ45??
Yup. There is still room in that connector for twists
Not really... almost all tutorials even BICSI says it's fine to untwist to the sheath
I wonder if those colors are meant to help people with red/green color blindness?
I'm colour blind and terminating cables is a bastard no matter what lol.
Couldn't possibly be the ones twisted with the colored wires...
So long as you NEVER get them close enough to each other to get them mixed up that you might want to confirm that you have the right white wire, then sure.
What if the wires become untangled for whatever reason?
Untangled all the way to the other end of the cable?
You strip a bit more jacket off and find more tangles to figure it out.
I've worked with some older cables that aren't white exactly, but the striped color has mostly faded and it's hard to tell.
Cat 5e is for peasants
6A Master race?
Cat 8 is already a thing....
Who actually uses it?
No one... I'm in the cable manufacturing business. We still pump out lots of cat 5e for standard residential installers and most small offices. Cat 6 still the go to for anything bigger/commercial.
Cat 7a drums sit on the shelf and get dusty
From the sales perspective I don't move much 5e. Lots of 6 and 6A. Poor 7 has pretty much been abandoned by the US market
The contractors in the UK love standard cat 5e PVC. It's mostly sold to wholesalers who then sell it to one man bands.
6a certainly getting more popular, seems to be the category of choice for many AV integrators.
I regularly visit our factory partners in the far East where most data cable is made, there is no demand for cat 8 so I am told.
Can you tell me a little about standard residential power cable in the states. Here we use twin and earth, a 2 core + earth double insulated cable rated to 500v, what is typical in the US?
6a is huge with the AV crowd here.
I'm not a big electrical guy, mainly low voltage and networking. However, from my knowledge it's a fairly similar setup, with a ground, a hot and a neutral with an occasional leg for the 240v setups.
Shielding or armour?
Hold on....people are still installing Cat5 into new installations?!?! What year is this?!?!
Pretty sure that's just shielding, not armour.
needs more armor
Look at the thickness of the plastic on the top one. Must be 1/16 of coating.
Boooooo. How are you supposed to terminate that correctly if there’s no striped wire in the pair?